What about the windows droppings that clog the Hard disk

Sun is already addressing this issue. The latest version of Java (6 update 10) has been changed to do future updates in place.

Quote from Sun's web site: https://jdk6.dev.java.net/6u10ea.html

For current users of Java SE, the JRE update mechanism has also been improved, using a patch-in-place mechanism that translates in a faster and more reliable update process (the patch in place mechanism will take effect for end users who upgrade from this update release or later to a new update release). As an added benefit, follow-on update releases will no longer be listed as separate items in the Windows "Add or Remove Programs" dialog.

Windows Droppings, did someone from SUN send you to say that or is it just McNealy having nothing better to do in retirement?

At least with Windows, Microsoft will include the latest version and remove the older version of the software.

Thank you JP, that's great news. I may even blog it.

[i]At least with Windows, Microsoft will include the latest version and remove the older version of the software.[/i]

But that can be a problem as well. Case in point: One feature I've always loved about Microsoft Word was the ability to add a USPS bar code for a 5-digit or 9-digit zip code when printing envelopes. That feature was removed from Word in Office2007. But, even though I've paid for Office2003 and Office2007, I can't have both, or even just similar components of both, installed at the same time. There's an instance where I'd GLADLY give up the real estate for the extra bits.

@mgp:

On the contrary you can, have multiple versions of Office installed on the same computer. During the installation setup of Office 2007, you are given the option to customize and choose to keep version of the application or the entire suite. You can then run Word 2003 or Word 2007 side by side.

Even after trying to remove from the start menu and disable Windows Media Center services on Vista. It continues to start every time I start Windows. At least JAVA does not have pop ups. I will give SUN an extra 30MB.

Larry,

136MB of useless information is trivial. How about a system sold way back in the early days of XP with Java 1.4.2 pre-installed? I have cleaned up systems with more than a gigabyte of Java versions. Sun is not the only one! Let's also pick on Adobe Acrobat Reader, with useless versions going back to 5.0. And do not forget the worst Windows syndrome of all, perpetrated by Microsoft itself. Just look at the clutter in the %temp% folder of any computer that has not had any cleanup for a while and you may encounter hundreds, even thousands, of TMP, HTM, XML and other useless and worthless files left behind by software written by little children who have not yet learned to clean up after themselves. The Redmond children are the worst offenders. If there are thousands of files in %temp%, Windows becomes a slug. Finally, there is the Windows registry, which becomes loaded up with obsolete and useless entries causing registry bloat and registry fragmentation. Ever wonder why Windows takes so long to boot? Because a supposedly well-behaved Windows application is expected to put all of its configuration information in the registry (not in INI files any more), with such arcane usage rules that nobody can figure out what it all means. It's not surprising that removing all this garbage from a typical Windows environment serves as a great tuneup and restores some of the computer's original spiffy performance... Ben

Ben, I couldn't agree with you more. Amazing what a user can do leaving temp files, the *.bak files (which I really generally don't dare delete without looking at...even though half are incomplete)...never mind. It was something absurd like 2 1/2 gigs on my wife's computer; she wouldn't let me touch it 'til she had a new one. She does apply Windows updates now. And she's actually somewhat of an experienced user.
--Glenn

I don't think Sun should fix this. The risk of deleting previous version is far more than leaving them for user to clean up. I least I would prefer Sun to provide interface or prompt to clean up and leave it to the user to determine the next course of action.

JAVA is a steaming pile of Donkey excrement. There is no other way to put it. There is no more resource wasting, CPU grabbing and memory hogging platform on the face of the Earth!

Portability? What a joke! I have worked for more than 15 years as a programmer and the last five years have been dedicated to performing Change Control for other programmers. I will tell you all that JAVA as a programming language is a cruel JOKE!

Using JAVA is a huge time sink that you can never recover from. Programmers with a real language and using CRACK would be more productive than straight and sober programmers on JAVA.

Benje